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		<title>Muscle Contraction or Action? By Mel Siff</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here we are witnessing a discussion bwteen Mel Siff and another distinguished member on the Supertraining Forums
Member&#60;&#60; I might take issue with some of this and ask for greater clarification.
While it is true that for general purposes a muscle is &#8220;measured relative to
its resting, unactivated length&#8221;, the relationship between lengthening and
shortening is relative to the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we are witnessing a discussion bwteen Mel Siff and another distinguished member on the Supertraining Forums</p>
<p>Member&lt;&lt; I might take issue with some of this and ask for greater clarification.<br />
While it is true that for general purposes a muscle is &#8220;measured relative to<br />
its resting, unactivated length&#8221;, the relationship between lengthening and<br />
shortening is relative to the extremes of the specific action being examined<br />
and would seem to have nothing to do with &#8220;resting, unactivated length&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>While it is true, that the &#8220;attempt&#8221; to contract against opposing force<br />
provides tension to the muscle in all three muscle action/contractions, true<br />
contraction &#8220;only&#8221; occurs when the filaments actually &#8220;slide&#8221;, providing<br />
a &#8220;shortening&#8221;. So even though we might be able to loosely term the act of<br />
tensioning, &#8220;contracting&#8221;, we would be acknowledging that the &#8220;attempt to<br />
contract&#8221; is &#8220;understood&#8221;. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Mel Siff:</p>
<p>***I was clarifying the definitions and analysis of muscle action according<br />
to what is accepted in standard high level texts and was not trying to create<span id="more-12406"></span><br />
a new body of knowledge, because literature that I came across did not<br />
reflect an adequate degree of accuracy on the topic. You have offered<br />
comments which apply to muscles in different states of excitation, including<br />
altered cognitive states, which intentionally have been excluded from the<br />
accepted definitions because they are acknowledged not to be true resting<br />
states. It would also help if you provided some references to support any<br />
opinions, so that we don&#8217;t simply end up having a jolly good rumble in the<br />
playground of speculation.</p>
<p>Member:</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;It is also true that due to the elastic nature of the &#8220;muscle complex&#8221; that<br />
it is possible to have a small amount of &#8220;shortening&#8221; during an isometric or<br />
eccentric action, this action is limited to the elastic properties and &#8220;is<br />
not&#8221; representitive of the total action in these cases.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Mel Siff:</p>
<p>***This is not exactly correct, since the sliding filament model of muscle<br />
and photomicrographs of muscle action show clearly that the actin-myosin<br />
units shorten and thereby tension the other non-contractile elements in the<br />
muscle complex. Also, there are elastic and viscoelastic components in the<br />
muscle complex, so that the issue is not one of simple elastic extension.</p>
<p>Member:</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;I think we more accurately would say during a &#8220;forced lengthening&#8221; eccentric<br />
action, the muscle &#8220;attempts&#8221; to contract. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Mel Siff:</p>
<p>***No, whether the action is &#8220;forced&#8221; by a heavy load or allowed to happen<br />
voluntarily when a person lowers a light load, the muscle will contract. It<br />
does not &#8220;attempt&#8221; to contract &#8211; it contracts. Muscle contraction is not a<br />
matter of &#8216;half-hearted&#8217;, semi-committed action, but the result of all or<br />
nothing excitation of muscle fibres. If there are any &#8220;attempts&#8221; to initiate<br />
a motor action, then this process happens at a neural level, not at a<br />
muscular level.</p>
<p>Member:</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;I am pressed to see that a true contraction (shortening) can happen under<br />
these conditions. Even though, as I have stated, a muscle has a degree of<br />
elasticity that may allow a small amount of actual contracting (within the<br />
limits of structural integrity), I think somehow we are confusing the<br />
&#8220;attempt to contract&#8221; with the actual &#8220;act of contracting&#8221;. The resistive<br />
action in the muscle to a &#8220;forced lengthening&#8221; is not called an eccentric<br />
contraction. It is called an eccentric action (or attempt to contract<br />
against an active/superior force)&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Member:</p>
<p>*** How can elasticity allow for contraction? Elasticity is always<br />
associated with lengthening in extensible tissues such as the muscles and<br />
elastic bands. This elasticity and possibly some &#8217;sliding&#8217; within the muscle<br />
complex contribute to the electromechanical delay associated with the<br />
activation of a muscle from its relaxed to its contracting state.</p>
<p>You will notice that I referred to eccentric &#8220;action&#8221; throughout my post, so<br />
that this comment has no bearing on what I wrote. I take great care not to<br />
confuse action with contraction, as do any biomechanists working in the same<br />
field. As noted above, the concept of &#8220;attempting&#8221; to contract is not a<br />
local muscular process or even one of spinal motor reflex action.</p>
<p>In one of my recent posts I even mentioned that the resting length in some<br />
cases (as in individuals suffering measurement of muscle length is a relative<br />
one. I simply emphasized that there happens to be a well-accepted definition<br />
of resting (unexcited) muscle length in every individual.</p>
<p>Member:</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;Biomechanically, the two actions (concentric-eccentric) are distinct and<br />
different. You might simply say that one acts as a brake and the other acts<br />
as a motor.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Mel Siff:</p>
<p>***Interestingly, though research has shown that isometric action is<br />
controlled by different brain mechanisms from dynamic action, no such<br />
difference has been found between concentric and eccentric muscle action (we<br />
discuss this point in Ch 1 of &#8220;Supertraining&#8221;). During all forms of JOINT<br />
action, the underlying process of muscle CONTRACTION is the same, though<br />
there are differences in the utilisation of deformable passive tissues and<br />
the various reflexes.</p>
<p>I can anticipate your possibly detouring into some lengthy semantic arguments<br />
about what we are discussing, and that will simply induce me to summarise<br />
even more information on this topic from some very competent authorities.<br />
So, to fill the gaps in your interpretation of muscle structure and function,<br />
first please read the summaries of current muscle research such as that in<br />
&#8220;Supertraining&#8221; (1999, pages 38-39) and go to the references cited. Other<br />
relevant texts are:</p>
<p>Fung Y Biomechanics: Mechanical Properties of Living Tissue 1981<br />
Frankel V &amp; Nordin M Basic Biomechanics of the Skeletal System 1980</p>
<p>Scientific American has also featured more recent work on this topic, plus a<br />
Medline search will also yield a huge amount of useful information.</p>
<p>Mel Siff<br />
Denver, USA<br />
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You may recall a post on the value of belts in lifting which requested that I
review a series of articles which Paul Chek, a regular speaker on the fitness
circuit, recently wrote on the subject in Testosterone emag (see the archives
of the Supertraining eGroup). Relying on some rather dubious biomechanics
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<p>You may recall a post on the value of belts in lifting which requested that I<br />
review a series of articles which Paul Chek, a regular speaker on the fitness<br />
circuit, recently wrote on the subject in Testosterone emag (see the archives<br />
of the Supertraining eGroup). Relying on some rather dubious biomechanics<br />
and clinical anecdotes, he deduced that all belt usage is detrimental to<br />
lifting. Well, he posted some rather unhappy reactions to my review on<br />
another weights user group. In one of these letters, he stated:</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;In summary, it is not a case of believing in the belly button &#8220;going in, or<br />
going out&#8221;, it is a case of the order of events. If the body functions<br />
correctly, segmental stabilization via the inner unit will prepare the system<br />
for force generation. This is why I often say in my lectures, &#8220;in order for<br />
the musculoskeletal system to stay healthy, stabilization must always precede<br />
force generation&#8221;. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>My response may be of interest to some of you:</p>
<p>*** &#8220;It is totally incorrect to state that stabilisation precedes<br />
mobilisation. Neither is this taught or applied clinically in physical<span id="more-12394"></span><br />
therapy (e.g. in the application of PNF, Bobath etc), nor is it supported by<br />
scientific research into the mechanisms of motor control. The annual<br />
series of Bernstein memorial lectures on motor control offer just one source<br />
of an extensive body of information which shows that stability is established<br />
via ongoing feedback or error-correction processes acting on a foundation of<br />
ongoing, varying levels of movement. If you have information to the<br />
contrary, then you would be able to revolutionise the entire world of control<br />
theory, not only in biology, but also in aeronautics, space exploration and<br />
many other fields of human endeavour. And you would become an enormously<br />
wealthy man in industry! &#8221;</p>
<p>It is important to note that a system that is completely stable or following<br />
a precisely described regular pattern (e.g. an unmodulated sine wave) carries<br />
no information, so that it becomes very daunting to try to control a system<br />
that tells you nothing about its current state. It is also fairly well known<br />
that systems which are very close to equilibrium can display catastrophic<br />
changes of state in response to very small perturbations (e.g. see work on<br />
non-equilibrium systems by Nobel Prize winning scientist, Ilya Prigogine).</p>
<p>The process of stabilisation is by no means as simple and clearcut as Chek<br />
seems to imply. Once again,this stresses how important it is for public<br />
lecturers and authors in the fitness and training world to understand the<br />
science behind the ideas and methods that they are trying to teach, sell or<br />
apply.</p>
<p>Mel Siff<br />
Denver, USA<br />
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		<title>Mel Siff Questioning The Deepak Chopra Way to Bliss</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deepak Chopra has become a new-age celebrity guru for physical, mental and
spiritual health, promoting a fuzzy philosophy with overtones of Ayurvedic
medicine of ancient India and remnants of his association with the Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi&#8217;s Transcendental Meditation (TM) movement. The first link below
give you the adoring disciple&#8217;s view of this man and his philosophy (peppered
with jargon like [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deepak Chopra has become a new-age celebrity guru for physical, mental and<br />
spiritual health, promoting a fuzzy philosophy with overtones of Ayurvedic<br />
medicine of ancient India and remnants of his association with the Maharishi<br />
Mahesh Yogi&#8217;s Transcendental Meditation (TM) movement. The first link below<br />
give you the adoring disciple&#8217;s view of this man and his philosophy (peppered<br />
with jargon like &#8220;Quantum Healing&#8221; meant to impress rather than elucidate),<br />
the second is from a skeptical viewpoint.</p>
<p>1. &lt;<a href="http://www.chopra.com/"><span style="color: #247cd4;">http://www.chopra.com/</span></a>&gt;</p>
<p>2. &lt;<a href="http://www.trancenet.org/chopra/news/ncahf.shtml"><span style="color: #247cd4;">http://www.trancenet.org/chopra/news/ncahf.shtml</span></a>&gt;</p>
<p>Typical of many such gurus, Chopra has woven a very compelling web of fact<br />
and fiction, theory and law, relying on his genuine medical education, so<br />
that even some very intelligent folk can easily be drawn into this wonderful<br />
world of &#8220;practical mysticism&#8221; and &#8220;therapeutically applied quantum physics.&#8221;<br />
In doing so, he often does little justice to Eastern healing arts or Western<br />
medicine and science, although he does an admirable job of constructing some<br />
very persuasive guruesque treatises that have made him commercially very<br />
successful. As some of our previous letters have noted about many people in<br />
certain Western countries who are rather willing to pay for their dreams,<br />
&#8220;you can fool most of the people most of the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Compare both of the sites above and judge for yourselves.</p>
<p>Mel Siff</p>

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